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WING TEST 2020 / SUPboarder Pro head to head video

In the first SUPboarder Pro Test for 2020 we’re going to be testing the newest accessory for any SUPer wanting to increase their water time… Wings. So if you want to hear our thoughts about the latest Wings and find out which Wing would best suit you sign up to SUPboarder Pro.

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Michelle
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Great feature on the wings….are you looking at a how too sections for wings??

Reuben Ellis

Thanks Michelle. We are going to be putting together some ‘How to Wing’ videos. If thats what you mean?

Hum3
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Hum3

Finally! Some head to head comparisons! I’ve been scouring the net for this sort of info, and chuffed that you guys have delivered. Well worth the subscription – great work guys!

Reuben Ellis

Great to hear it. We all worked hard on this and we’re really glad you found it useful. Thanks for the support.

sj257
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sj257

Great to see. Well done getting that together. Have you tied the wings with iSUP’s particularly thinking of lighter wind cruising off the plane? Much as the performance side looks like fun I’m interested in the touring side and lower performance too.

Reuben Ellis

Hey Simon , We have done some basic test but they aren’t the best with iSUPs. Unless you’re really not that worried about going up wind. I have heard of a few Pro Subscribes using these drift stoppers https://shop.duotonesports.com/en-gb/add-on-drift-stopper-14200–8010 . I will send them a mail and see if they can send us some to see if they work. Will let you know. I think you will love it and it will be great for fishing too!

sj257
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sj257

I did wonder if an iSUP would have sufficed lateral resistance. Like a windsurfing longboard without the dagger. Would add appeal if the wing was a useful light wind tool as well as high wind/foil. That add on looks like it might do the trick.

Andy Sinclair
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Andy Sinclair

I went out 2 weekends ago with Will Rogers on a 12foot ISUP with a middle (dagger board) fin in 8-15 knots. I was using my own prototype wing. I could get Upwind okay after some practice but it would of been impossible without the middle fin as you cant get the rail to bite against. A hard board is deffinatley a bit nicer as they are also thinner height wise so a little bit easier to keep your balance. For light winds though they are still fun and its nice to not have the faff of a windsurf rig… Read more »

sj257
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sj257

Thanks Andy. Some helpful info. Some added lateral resistance seems key. I would love to see a wing that took the Duotone idea and blended the paddle. Can’t be difficult to make a wing that attaches to your paddle so you can pump up the wing when touring, and paddle when you’re going up wind. If I could get my hands on a Duotone sail I’d be tempted to try to prototype something up.

shakahouse@gmail.com
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shakahouse@gmail.com

Great test. Thank you. I’ve had the Slingshot Slingwing for the past four months and I’m very happy with it. In 15-25 knots it works great with my Moses tortuga foil (873 front wing) and Naish 95L foilboard. It works great in gusty conditions in my local waters of San Francisco Bay. I’d be curious to find out if you’ve seen any performance difference between the Slingwing’s trailing edge bladder fully pumped and the other wings. Does less trailing edge flapping mean more power? There seems to be a power/performance trade-off between having more weight vs. lower weight and less… Read more »

Reuben Ellis

Thanks a lot for your feedback on the Slingshot. The trailing edge should have a big effect to the efficiency to the wing. It would be great to see this sort of thing in a wind tunnel with smoke. I don’t think it can release the air flow as cleanly as a normal edge. But like you said this would be different with a badly designed flapping trailing edge. But as far as all sails go the inflatable trailing edge is not the norm! We would need to do more tests but my gut feeling is its not as efficient.… Read more »

Andy Sinclair
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Andy Sinclair

The Slingwing is very powerful and the inflatable trailing edge is interesting. It is deffinatley not great on the aero side but does stabalise the structure which does help it keeping the power on. I think that why the duotone works so well, in a aero situation as it has no middle bladder to mess with the aeroflow in the middle of wing and its shape is very stable, it dosent deform too much in gusts and encourages you to trim it right which is very easy with the bar over handles. The naish I found very ‘gutless’ it required… Read more »

Reuben Ellis

Great feedback Andrew, thanks for sharing

Andy Sinclair
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Andy Sinclair

The slingwing is very interesting, very powerful and they have worked hard to achieve stability in its shape (thus the inflatable rear) and in some ways it has worked but I think its outclassed by the Duotone, the lack of central bladder produces a much better aero shape in the middle which I think is definite performance advantage over all the other wings, and the large amounts of dihedral produces a very stable planform without the weight of inflatble back edge, added to this the bar over handles makes trimming it much easier over all the other wings. The F-One… Read more »

burchas
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burchas

Great review! Lots of insights. I think you covered just about everything. My only comment would be the final awards. I think you have too many and It’s somewhat confusing and makes it harder to make a choice.

The Pros & Cons are super helpful and detailed enough that you could do away with 3 awards, just to sum it up concisely, so we could focus after ingesting heavy load of information:)

Keep them coming. Great work!

Reuben Ellis

Great to hear your feedback. We wanted to have less awards but we were struggling for which ones to not have. When we were discussing about them we were trying to make sure we covered an award for all types of riders and there needs and budgets. We would love to hear other peoples thoughts and which awards we could drop? Thanks so much for your feedback its so important, keep it coming.

burchas
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burchas

If I had to choose which I can do without I’d say drop the “Best Value” and the “Best Flat Water Foiling”.

The first one is just very obvious and on the price difference alone would sway me over if I’m not too sure about this sport. I think that’s why the Gong wing does so well. I also think it’s an oversight on their part not to send you equipment for review and I messaged them about it.

The second one is just too specific of an award in my opinion.

Reuben Ellis

OK, great to hear which ones you would drop. Its hard because we have had lots of lakes Wing riders saying how much they liked the flat water award because a surfing wing really isn’t for them. Yeah, its a shame about Gong and how they didn’t want to get involved. But its their loss, hundreds of other wings will be sold to other riders now because of this video. Thanks again for the feedback we will be talking about it with the Team.

Grafix
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Grafix

I’d agree that there are too many awards here to totally clarify your thoughts. A question I also have is to understand why the F-one is better upwind but loses out on power to the Duotone. It’s just awesome to see such a good comparison of the wings and I can see the care that has gone in to it but I think it just needs a little bit of reduction to really hit the bullseye. I love the Pro content and am not trying to be a smart-a#se – just joining in the discussions!

Reuben Ellis

Please do its what we want to hear. It’s really important so we can make these test better in future. We will be taking the comments on and discussing with the team. I will get Andy to answer the question about the Fone wing shape. Im sure he will explain it better than me. Thanks again it really good stuff so keep the comments coming. Also which award/s would you drop?

Grafix
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Grafix

Thanks Reuben. I think I’d just have best flat water wing and best wave wing – but with a top 3 ‘podium’ for each award. Finally an editor’s choice award with a 3 medal podium again – which crowns the overall winner.

Reuben Ellis

Ok this could be a good move. I can see it will still give everybody a good idea of how the gear sits in the awards. Thanks again for the comment really great feedback.

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